Let me know, in some way or another, when you have made a third version of that image based on the prototype I sent. In the meantime, I saved the first version and stored it within our top-secret vault! Looking forward to seeing you again on chat.
Looks like a cool card to me. Wonder if it's the size of a business card... -imagines it on the side of a skyscraper-
I also hear they got Partnered with Discord and they got their own unique link for the TTR Discord server. It's cool that TTR is moving up in the ranks, even if I don't know everything about Discord. :P
Greetings! It has been awhile since I would send a message to one's message wall, but we need to discuss Trolley games.
As shown in my latest edit to the Cog Thief page, I changed up quite a few things. What I want to discuss, however, are the two templates: Trolley and Trolley-bot debug mode.
Good news for the Trolley template! There is now an "icon" syntax where you can add the icon image representing the respective Trolley game straight into the template itself rather than within a gallery section.
"Meh" news for the Trolley-bot debug mode template. The template is great and all, but I think it's missing something important. An average user, especially new Toontown players, would not understand what in the name of Doctor Surlee this unfamiliar red message on top of the page is saying. It would be ever so grateful if you could implement a way to show indication of where the message came from for our users to look over and read about, similar to how our handy-dandy Quote template works. Perhaps this will guide users through the Template:Trolley-bot debug mode page that you worked hard on, or an ARG page (specifically ARG: Call Log in the case of Trolley games).
Thanks for sprucing up the "Trolley" template. Looks nicer with a Trolley Tracks icon.
I guess it has been a while since that ARG. As much as I like it to look super close to the game and add to the mystery, it would probably be way better with a link to an explanation. Since I'm picky about changes to the template, I was gonna link those people to the "ARG: Call Log" page, but it doesn't explain everything. Not one of my best pages...
Ya know I could probably add extra functionality to the notification too. I could have two tabs at the top so I could display two different possible messages. I remember the Encyclopedia SpongeBobia (The SpongeBob SquarePants Wiki at the time?) has a bunch of tabs so I could look at their syntax.
I also found some random coding on the Gravity Falls Wiki that might simplify things too. It should run the result every time it's viewed instead of the current method where it cashes some number from the page view.
If I combine those two ideas, people should be able to see a new result every time they want to.
Hello! I am Lucky Biscuit. I am a fellow Toontown Rewritten Player. I have a question. I can't go into the phase files or download them so I wanna know if you can help me by sharing some Clothes Files (Both Shirts and Pants, Like Flippy's Outfit, Toon Trooper Outfit, Etc.) through a simple comment on the Message Wall as a PNG. If you can do that then that would be great! Thank you.
I don't know where you'd get Toontown Online Phase Files these days, but you can get them from Toontown Rewritten for free. I'm not sure if you need an account to get the launcher to download them for you or not...
Unfortunately, some shirts, like the shirt I like to wear, have the color added after the fact with the game's code. Might be harder to extract a pure texture map version of that.
Nah, I'm not going to do that today. And I don't feel like drawing your Toon, sorry. I was planning on doing something more interesting with the Toontown Rewritten logo. The 26th is coming up quick, you know! But I'm not sure if I'll have it ready by then. Not enough time in the day.
Also, I didn't look to see if you hid any super duper secret messages in your posts. You didn't leave behind any Easter eggs behind, did you?... :P
Thanks. :P And sorry. I didn't leave any super secret messages in my posts. But I have another question. How do you know which parts of a Clothes File are supposed to go on the Front, Side, Back, (Maybe even up where the neck is.) Is there anyway to know which parts of the texture are for which areas? And thanks for the info! :)
Panda3D and the Toon torso kinda seem to know how to apply all the shirt textures. There's two different textures for a shirt... the main body texture, and the sleeve texture.
I'm sure Panda3D knowing how to apply textures doesn't help YOU out today, but I do have some tips and some pages here you can check out.
The back usually has a darker shadow on it and the front belly is noticeably lighter. Briefly looking at Category:Shirts, I found a few pages that might help you out a bit. (Manulik did a GREAT job with a lot of these!)
Note that some textures are bigger than others. TTR likes to make some of the newer clothing with bigger textures. Also the way the textures are applied to the model can be kinda... warped some times. Seems like they make the texture maps a little crooked and warped to compensate. Very noticeable on that "Token Taker Shirt".
I'm not too sure about the sleeves, but it seems like the darker part of the texture is the bottom of the sleeve and the lighter part is on top?
These have transparency, and it seems like the people who took pictures of the renders used Pview.exe with a grey background, removed the pure grey, but didn't restore the transparency in the transparent part of the glasses. I don't think I can really blame them. :P
Wow, before you asked, I forgot how much we had on this Wiki. :)
That's looking good. Even got the subtle spacing right on the sleeves. Those jingly things like to hang at the back of the shoulders a bit.
I don't really play ROBLOX, but I've seen a bit of it on YouTube. It's like programming your own game (or mini-game) I guess? I don't know if you need to link your sources or give this Wiki/Manulik attribution for those files, but I'm sure you can handle it.
Who knows, I might end up seeing someone playing your free game on YouTube one day. :) Have fun!
Do you think we can find the videos that were in LoopyGoopyG's Video and be able to upload them onto the wiki page? If LoopyGoopyG could find them. Maybe we could too! Also thanks for updating it. I really have a hard time making a page on a wiki. :P
I suppose it's possible, but I've been having trouble finding them in the short time I've searched. (Also, I'm secretly hoping that Loopy's video will inspire people to upload old home videos of Toon Tag to YouTube.) And no problem. It gets easier with practice (although that one seemed a bit tricky).
I think I added a few nice ingredients that can make the page better, but it still looks a bit ugly. Might need a little more TLC.
Thanks for spearheading the project, LuckyBiscuitTTR. Without you it probably wouldn't have gotten a page here any time soon. It's one of those things that's nice to have, but not on the top of my our list of priorities to make happen... or at least, not for me.
I was kinda wondering where you got the pictures you uploaded. Did you take a screenshot of Loopy's YouTube video and get it that way, or did you find them somewhere else on the internet?
I'm having trouble just finding the pure logo by itself (without taking it from the TTO Wiki, of course).
I just used the Snipping Tool to get the pictures on his video and cropped them. I wonder if the actual logo is out there. The one I got from his video is all white and doesn't look as good as it should.
And You're welcome. I felt like I just had to upload it since it looked very interesting and it would perhaps teach others about what Toon Tag was. :3
May I ask why do you feel the need of archiving links that Otaku's bot on the Toontown subreddit intends to create and add them to the wiki? When adding a description for images like 16-11-8_electionday.jpg is not a problem, but imagine how much clutter this would create on a page if you had four wayback machine links that are literally the same thing with a different title, especially if the page is linking to more than one blog post, which would be twice as much, if not way more.
Long story short, I really think we should try to stay TTR official when it comes to linking sources coming from them, not by some random person in the community who made a bot to add his own name to links. You'll notice by browsing the subreddit that Otaku's bot has not been performing this deed in a long time, so I don't know where you get those links from, but I guess you made it into a habit of yours for some reason. I mean, this is a wiki after all. That's not to say, however, that archiving is a bad thing. :P
On a positive note, however, where have you been? Seems like the wiki is being quiet once again. Funny thing is, I've actually made some of our pages follow the Manual of Style after realizing their capitalized titles look odd and not so good. There may be an exception for certain pages, but not so sure about that.
I don't feel the need of writing an extremely long message, so I'll just say it here. One last thing I'd like to point out about the wayback machine links is that you're adding the use of extra unnecessary links to only a few images, which I think is... literally strange. I know for a fact it will be hard for us to decide what is good and what is not good; I really wish the wiki was active again and one day we'll need more volunteers for admins (if they earn it).
Ah yes. I have my reasons for all those archives. :P I've answered your (comm-30836) questions about this before, but there ARE a few things I haven't mentioned about them before.
~ A quick rundown for the future people listening in on us from 2017 and beyond... -waves to future people- I have like 4 or 5 archives I like to make for TTR blog posts. There's a normal URL, the ---!Con one I bleep out (like for ToonFest 2016 irl), "-", "toontownredditisawesome", and "otakustilllovesyou". ~
Sometimes, Wayback Machine links fail or become really picky. I think for a while, almost all the archives I made from December 2015 went down, but then came back up a month later. So it can be nice to have more than one archive. Not mandatory, but nice.
I consider it a small bonus to have those 4 links on new pictures. But I didn't always use those naming conventions. I added to them over time. I consider it a big bonus to have 4 links for older blog post pictures because time has passed between the archives. The website and its interface look slightly different over time. (I don't like to re-archive old blog posts as much. Would kind of take away from the effect. I might re-archive them if we get a they website though.)
I don't think I've told anyone this yet. I was afraid someone might mess it up. But now is a good time for me to mention it. I've added quite a lot of Wayback URLs to some of the oldest TTR blog post pics on our Wiki. And if you look at the edit history, I have an explanation of what I'm doing with those links and why. It's a secret story to be told. :D
You know I like my secrets, and I know you like your stories.
(cur | prev) 22:53, September 6, 2016 Dynaboom (wall | contribs | block) . . (1,694 bytes) (+318) . . (I've been archiving all these links on the Wayback Machine. I might as well link them too. :)) (rollback | undo)
(cur | prev) 22:59, September 6, 2016 Dynaboom (wall | contribs | block) . . (1,867 bytes) (+318) . . (Adding more Wayback Machine links. Different URLs linking to the same thing. I actually put a lot of work into these.) (rollback | undo)
(cur | prev) 23:06, September 6, 2016 Dynaboom (wall | contribs | block) . . (1,908 bytes) (+318) . . (Adding 3 more Wayback Machine links to the same thing. You know, all 3 of these blog post links have stories behind them. Small stories, but still.) (rollback | undo)
(cur | prev) 23:19, September 6, 2016 Dynaboom (wall | contribs | block) . . (1,710 bytes) (+318) . . (3 Wayback links. When I made a comment on a TTR blog post in the past, it actually replaced the blog post name in the URL to just "-". This taught me the website just uses the news item number (a signed integer) to identify the different blog posts.) (rollback | undo)
(cur | prev) 23:29, September 6, 2016 Dynaboom (wall | contribs | block) . . (1,815 bytes) (+318) . . (So I was looking a Reddit reposts of the TTR news on /r/Toontown and when the bot would link to the source, the end of the URL after the news item said "toontownredditisawesome". I saw it so much, I decided to just archive all the blogs with that URL) (rollback | undo)
(cur | prev) 23:41, September 6, 2016 Dynaboom (wall | contribs | block) . . (1,939 bytes) (+318) . . (3 archives. Of course that one URL end just means "Toontown Reddit is awesome". Not sure what blog made me start it but my notes reference news item 0, 19, 215, and 252. ...It's probably 215, "Our Pleasure to Return". Nov 2014, on the 26th.) (rollback | undo)
(cur | prev) 00:12, September 7, 2016 Dynaboom (wall | contribs | block) . . (1,416 bytes) (+321) . . (3 links. Hey, did you know there are missing blog post numbers? I've been keeping track (to 363)! The news items 0, 1, 17, 116, 145, 192, 195, 236, and 346 just don't have blog posts on their URLs. Didn't stop me from archiving their 404's though! :P) (rollback | undo)
(cur | prev) 00:29, September 7, 2016 Dynaboom (wall | contribs | block) . . (1,267 bytes) (+321) . . (3links. Hmm I didn't archive the negative #s' 404s for the news items... Also some news items are in the wrong order. 300 is in the wrong place (298, 299, 301, 302, 300, 303, 304). 288 and 287, 259 and 258, 330 and 329, and 337 and 336 are mixed up.) (rollback | undo)
(cur | prev) 01:05, September 7, 2016 Dynaboom (wall | contribs | block) . . (1,413 bytes) (+321) . . (3 links. I don't know if those missing blog post numbers are important, or like "that which is missing" from Sonic, or even if TTR knows about it. I also archive failed comment links (/news/comment/161/do) and replace that convention name with ---.) (rollback | undo)
(cur | prev) 01:16, September 7, 2016 Dynaboom (wall | contribs | block) . . (1,628 bytes) (+324) . . (3 links. So that's like 5 or 6 archives per blog post. A lot to keep up with. Hey, those last 2 archives are messing up for me right now. I may look at them later. Thanks for reading the edit summaries of this blog pic and the older ones before this.) (undo)
And that's about when I stopped updating those super old ones. Might be more than a week before I start chipping away at those again. I try to get the very best links and I have all these tabs open and it's a bit laggy. I'm not always in the mood to deal with this setup. Minor inconvenience. :P
I notice you took the extra links away from File:16-9-24 thetokentakers.jpg a while ago. I might be adding those back soon. If people don't know about the existence of those links, this is one way to learn about them, even if it's out of context. I think I kinda get where you're coming from though. I'm assuming you want things to be clean and elegant. I found an exception where your way makes way more sense. File:Game wacky party.png This one already has SO many useful links and it's all concise and compact and nice. Extra links would actually take away from the effect. (I'll probably have to think about this more to figure out WHY I think what I think about these two different situations in case more exceptions appear in the future.) ...Oh wait, I just noticed you mention this at the end of your first big paragraph above. Yeah, 4 archives per news item make less sense if there's more than one news item. Good for 1 news item, bad for 5 news items, bad for 4 news items...
I've been a bit inconsistent because just having a single URL for the .jpg and a single URL for the blog post is quick and easy. But then with File:Plan header.png, File:Plan species.png, and File:Plan species sm.png, I went above and beyond because it was new concept art for new Toon Species. It's unique to TTR, more important, might get more traffic, and easier than some of the secret projects of mine that I haven't been working on as much recently.
Sorry if there was any confusion about this.
I haven't been quite as active as usual. Sorry about that. But I have some real life things to attend to and Thanksgiving is coming up pretty soon.
I might not be editing Pages and stuff a lot right now. But I'm assuming I'll check in at least once every two days to see what's new. And when more blog post pictures appear on the TTR website, I'm sure I'll be there to fill in its sources on our Wiki.
Phew, another big post. Wasn't sure I wanted to make a big one, but there was a bunch of stuff I wanted to say. :P
Careful what you wish for. ;) I'm sure this Wiki will be active again. Maybe some day pretty soon here. Toontown Rewritten might be toning down their community work to focus on the game part of their game, but the hype will rise again.
Hype trains are powerful tools, but in the wrong hands they could cause lots of damage. They could even destroy the world! -gasp- The Silly Meter from Toontown Online is essentially a hype train. It was meant to save our town, but it didn't quite work that way. Maybe it'll work the 3rd time in Toontown Rewritten.
Oh, I've been watching you edit the blog post images. Trying to hide?
I had a quick glance at your bullet points and then carefully read them. All I'm getting out of it is that you're only telling the reader, who may be viewing the edit history, that the additional links came from the Toontown subreddit. I guess that's one way to let someone know why the urls are not accurate with what appears on TTR's website, but I still don't understand your "reasons" for using these links. Need you explain more?
I should've mentioned this previously as well, always finding things to discuss about. Try not to archive the blog post images with their urls containing a number at the end. Even though this occassionally happens for some images on TTR's site, I don't think Joey intends for this to happen, unless he wants to reveal two different versions of an image. You could literally add any number to it, which is why we should keep it clean. I went ahead and archived a new link to get rid of the number.
If you can, come over to the chat right about now. If not, then maybe tomorrow or another time.
EDIT: Allow me to handle wayback machine links for blog posts and images related to OMG!Con. I've put a lot of work into creating OMG!Con 2015 and OMG!Con 2016, after all. I understand why you don't tolerate the word, but I will not have the links changed up because of this.
Hehehe... Just hiding from super big projects. Editing the descriptions of those pictures is just a bite-size project to help the Wiki out a bit.
Well, there's a few reasons I use those links. First off, I create the archives so any possible old links on Reddit work. And I archive the "-" ones so people (even me) can navigate the Wayback Machine easier. (Trying to navigate the archives of TTO's website is a nightmare.)
I take the Wayback URLs and put them on the Wiki partially because it's better for the Wiki (in my opinion) and partially because it makes things more convenient for me later on. It's like a checklist in that it helps confirm what I've archived if I was able to put it in the description of a picture at one time.
I think I've done the best I can explaining this Wayback Machine archive stuff to you... but not to other people. If other people being confused about this is a concern, then maybe there's a way to tell them? I don't know how to go about doing this. In theory, I could make a User Blog about how I link things and why, but that might make me a bottle-neck. I want other people to use/tweak my system, even if I'm off on vacation or working on a different part of the Wiki.
Nah, I don't feel like changing that number thing. I think doing so for every single little picture might make things less accurate AND it sounds like a whole lot of work.
This probably isn't what you mean, but changing File:11-5-13 jungle2.jpg to not have the 2 wouldn't work. I tried earlier today.
I'm sure you mean something like File:16-10-22 holdthephone.jpg with the ?2 at the end, but the version with ?1 at the end used to be totally different. He used to be missing his bowtie. It's too bad I wasn't able to archive that old pic. I tried.
If you want to create your own archives, then go ahead, but I'd rather have the ?1 at the end under the Source Header for the pictures. It might not be what Joey/whoever intended, but that's kinda the way it is. Might be impractical to have "plan_species_sm.png?1" and "plan_species_sm.png" both in the source, but I guess we COULD try to make that work if ya want. It IS an option. idk
Oh wait, you already changed it. Hmm. Don't know if I should change it back or leave it like it is.
I'll still try to create archives with both ---!Con and the real one too, but yeah, you can handle those Pages on the Wiki. If the URL is already here (and relevant to TTR like I know it is), then I can let it be.
But if I put URL of it on the Wiki, it'll be the bleeped out version. Someone could change it later. Either way, it'll work as a source.
Took me like two hours to see your comment. It's getting late, but maybe we can chat tomorrow.
I don't think that's the way it is. Plan_species_sm.png should not have had been any different with that number unless you added it yourself. Plus, it seems like they removed the blog post image of Riggy without his bowtie from the TTR site, but the image can be found on their Twitter. It's nothing more than Joey making a simple mistake to not include the bowtie. With the change, this makes the "?1" and "?2" links literally useless.
I still don't want the OMG!Con links changed up, which is why I'm asking you to let me work on it. Feel free to add archive the censored ones and add them to the wiki, but I'm most likely going to change them myself - just so you know. OMG!Con is just as important in TTR's history for being the central area of where a real life ToonFest took place, so I think it deserves the love it gets.
Archiving isn't hard at all, but making an effort to archive over 300 blog posts and images is indeed a challenge.
Oh, wow. It says it's been 6 days since you suggested we talk in Live!Chat. I think this is a good place for me to respond, and I don't want to flood that (32714) Thread about the concept art with unrelated updates. I had a thing or two I wanted to say there (like about ToonFest), but I haven't had the time for it yet. I've been quite busy lately.
Too bad we don't have a Private Message on this Wiki, right?
I know this is short notice, but I'll try to be in chat for a while today--maybe two hours--and hope you join in. After the two hours, I'll have to leave.
If we can't get into contact today, I might give you another message tomorrow so we can get in Chat then.
Sorry for not getting into contact again sooner. :P
Engine update was super awesome. I actually could get in the game, usually with one click, for a while. The ability to get Just For Fun! ToonTasks while working on my Bossbot Disguise Parts pretty much saved the tasking system for me. For a while I was in limbo not willing to start the Bossbot tasks in case they add more TTR exclusive limited-time ToonTasks like they do. Toon IDs are cool, but I don't know if I should keep any IDs secret or what. Genderless Create-a-Toon shirts are kinda weird. It's getting harder and harder to tell the girls from the boys. Oh, and new Mint/DA/CGC music is pretty sweet. :)
Toon golfing is a thing, yes. Racing is probably still kinda broken. Something to do with the way Trophies work and how Grand Tours work I guess? For a while I had 2 Trophies and 1 Laff Point Cup. Normally need 10 Trophies for that. :P
Uh let's see...
The graphics bug from the Christmas in July 2015 update to a newer version of Panda3D still makes things look awful for me. X Jumper doesn't have this problem.
Recently, I tried making a Resource Pack, but I'm not quite sure they work. I edited the TTR logo in MS Paint, added some colors, flipped it on its side and compiled that along with its .rgb, but the logo on start up looked the same. I also had an older edit to phase_4, but that either made the engine crash on startup, or had no affect. Apparently Resource Packs are another thing that affect the game's ability to make it to the Pick-a-Toon screen.
Getting into the game has actually been pretty easy lately. Only takes me like 1 or 2 tries.
Halloween happened. Things got Spooky in Toontown's Neighborhoods and Estates... but not at ToonFest. Odd. I DID take a few pictures of me with a Pumpkin Head at ToonFest, even though the Intel graphics make it hard to tell.
ToonFest should still be around. And should still have that day/night system. Oh and they make you pay for your pies. At least you get to buy Cupcakes, Birthday Cakes, and Wedding Cakes. :)
Riggy Marole isn't around yet, but he's in the Phase Files. People have made videos of it. Also the shop in the center is closed.
At this rate, ToonFest may still be around when Christmas time comes. I would have liked to see Holiday variations of ToonFest, but I'd rather see them do what they've already planned for instead. Don't need more distractions.
It kinda feels like a huge part of the community is on a delay (partly because I'm one of the people who haven't payed TTR in a while). If you return soon, it'll probably make TTR update some more and make more players join and cause a chain reaction that makes the community super lively and excited.
As for the new color theme, I kinda like the old orange better. But red is still cool and it's kinda new for us so that's awesome. Red is probably better for us until the novelty wears off, which may be a while.
I forgot our MainPage had red colors on it. I forget why, maybe something about the new-ish Community tab.